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	<title>Comments on: Wherefore, Andrew Freedman?</title>
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		<title>By: StephanieDolgoff</title>
		<link>http://www.formerlyhot.com/2008/12/wherefore-andrew-freedman/comment-page-1/#comment-362</link>
		<dc:creator>StephanieDolgoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know...she's something else. Total lack of awareness of the rest of the world. I feel for her shock and the destruction of her self-image. Otherwise, the most she'll get from me is my seat on the subway, should she be standing in front of me. She's NOT in her 60s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know&#8230;she&#8217;s something else. Total lack of awareness of the rest of the world. I feel for her shock and the destruction of her self-image. Otherwise, the most she&#8217;ll get from me is my seat on the subway, should she be standing in front of me. She&#8217;s NOT in her 60s.</p>
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		<title>By: maryn</title>
		<link>http://www.formerlyhot.com/2008/12/wherefore-andrew-freedman/comment-page-1/#comment-361</link>
		<dc:creator>maryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Alexandra Penney essay(s - yes, there's more than one) have been a topic of, ahem, free and frank discussion on a writers' board I belong to. On the one hand, you have to feel for her, if it's true that she worked her own way up and stashed her money so as not to become the bag-lady-eating-cat-food that haunts the dreams of, well, most of my friends. anyway. On the other hand: The apartment and the studio AND the cottage in West Palm? The horror at having to take the subway for the first time in 30 years? The FORTY white shirts? My sympathy has limits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Alexandra Penney essay(s - yes, there&#8217;s more than one) have been a topic of, ahem, free and frank discussion on a writers&#8217; board I belong to. On the one hand, you have to feel for her, if it&#8217;s true that she worked her own way up and stashed her money so as not to become the bag-lady-eating-cat-food that haunts the dreams of, well, most of my friends. anyway. On the other hand: The apartment and the studio AND the cottage in West Palm? The horror at having to take the subway for the first time in 30 years? The FORTY white shirts? My sympathy has limits.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph's husband</title>
		<link>http://www.formerlyhot.com/2008/12/wherefore-andrew-freedman/comment-page-1/#comment-360</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph's husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>modelled after the Champs Elysee and the now a Nat'l Historic District owing to the unusual concentration of art deco apartment buildings at 730-1000, 1100-1520, 1560, and 851-1675, which are listed on the National Register of Historic Places.  many of these buildings feature sunken living rooms, maid's quarters, parquet floors, dumb waiters, and elaborate mosaics and murals in their lobbies.  the coops at 158th (across from the courthouse) still have uniformed doormen and crystal chandeliers in their common areas.  

the finest buildings in the borough (outside of Riverdale, of course) were on the Concourse and back in the day, an upwardly mobile family  always aspired to an apartment on that charmed boulevard.  In its heyday, the boro's aristocracy--physicians, attorneys, businessmen, and other white collar types-- flocked to the Concourse's choicest buildings--generally located between 158th and approx. 174th Street.  Celebrities, too-- Babe Ruth took up residence at the Concourse Plaza hotel at 161st Street; Flavor Flav lived at 165th (post PE, pre VH1).

Closer to Fordham Road, the apts become a bit more modest, the facades less ornamented, and the art deco influences much less pronounced.  And their occupants have historically been from humbler stations than their brethren to the south.  Racial divisions were also evident along the Concourse up until the mid to late 60's, when the apartments near the courthouse began to turn over, and landlords finally began to rent to Puerto Ricans and African-Americans, who at one time were barred from housing in the area.  my boss still remembers the day the first coquito seller appeared on the Concourse--a Jackie Robinson moment for Puerto Ricans in the Bronx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>modelled after the Champs Elysee and the now a Nat&#8217;l Historic District owing to the unusual concentration of art deco apartment buildings at 730-1000, 1100-1520, 1560, and 851-1675, which are listed on the National Register of Historic Places.  many of these buildings feature sunken living rooms, maid&#8217;s quarters, parquet floors, dumb waiters, and elaborate mosaics and murals in their lobbies.  the coops at 158th (across from the courthouse) still have uniformed doormen and crystal chandeliers in their common areas.  </p>
<p>the finest buildings in the borough (outside of Riverdale, of course) were on the Concourse and back in the day, an upwardly mobile family  always aspired to an apartment on that charmed boulevard.  In its heyday, the boro&#8217;s aristocracy&#8211;physicians, attorneys, businessmen, and other white collar types&#8211; flocked to the Concourse&#8217;s choicest buildings&#8211;generally located between 158th and approx. 174th Street.  Celebrities, too&#8211; Babe Ruth took up residence at the Concourse Plaza hotel at 161st Street; Flavor Flav lived at 165th (post PE, pre VH1).</p>
<p>Closer to Fordham Road, the apts become a bit more modest, the facades less ornamented, and the art deco influences much less pronounced.  And their occupants have historically been from humbler stations than their brethren to the south.  Racial divisions were also evident along the Concourse up until the mid to late 60&#8217;s, when the apartments near the courthouse began to turn over, and landlords finally began to rent to Puerto Ricans and African-Americans, who at one time were barred from housing in the area.  my boss still remembers the day the first coquito seller appeared on the Concourse&#8211;a Jackie Robinson moment for Puerto Ricans in the Bronx.</p>
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		<title>By: StephanieDolgoff</title>
		<link>http://www.formerlyhot.com/2008/12/wherefore-andrew-freedman/comment-page-1/#comment-359</link>
		<dc:creator>StephanieDolgoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I shit you not! Stay tuned for more from my husband, who knows everything there is to know about most things, but especially the Bronx. Designed by the same dude, and until the mid-60s, most parts of the Concourse (which runs a few miles) were peopled with upper middle class folks. That said, the southern part has been humble for longer than that. Now, totally humble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I shit you not! Stay tuned for more from my husband, who knows everything there is to know about most things, but especially the Bronx. Designed by the same dude, and until the mid-60s, most parts of the Concourse (which runs a few miles) were peopled with upper middle class folks. That said, the southern part has been humble for longer than that. Now, totally humble.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You gotta be shitting me!  The Grand Concourse was the Shampsellisay?  My dad grew up there, and I had no idea it was anything special, him always talking about his humble origins.  Come to think of it, I've never seen the name in print before, or heard anybody mention it.  

Guess I should visit some time.</description>
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<p>Guess I should visit some time.</p>
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